Lou Reed
1974-10-27
Dayton, OH
Palace Theatre
With parts from:
The Felt Forum, New York NY 1974-10-09.
And patched audio in 'Heroin' from:
The St. Bernard Civic Auditorium, Chalmette, LA 1974-11-08.
Lou Reed: Vocals, mayhem
Danny Weiss: guitar
Michael Fonfara: keyboards
Peter 'Mouse' Johnson: Drums
Prakash John: Bass on the NY tracks maybe all the others
Peter Hodgeson: Bass maybe on the others besides NY.
01 Tuning
02 Intro Instrumental
03 Sweet Jane
04 Vicious
05 Ride Sally Ride
06 Heroin
07 Kill Your Sons
08 NY Stars
09 Animal Language
10 Waiting For Sally improv>Sally Can't Dance
11 Bass solo jam
12 Walk On The Wild Side
13 White Light White Heat
14 NY Telephone Conversation/Goodnight Ladies
15 Rock And Roll
The music is continuous, no gaps or fades.
For burning to CD split between 09 and 10.
Tracks 01 02 03 04 and 12 are mono soundboard
recordings from The Felt Forum.
The other tracks are stereo soundboard recordings
from The Palace Theatre.
Heroin has a 90 second audience recording patch
taken from the Chalmette recording.
This recording was originally shared by lurid uk.
As of today it has been snatched 1368 times.
It certainly did generate a lot of excitement, justifiably so.
At the time it was put up I had a series of conversations with lurid uk
about it.
When I first heard the samples I could tell this was going to be good.
But, something seemed a little out of whack. Not quite right.
When you listen to those samples it sounds like the right channel is louder than
the left. I expected to look at the waveform and see that the right channel was in fact louder.
The first few mono tunes look just like they should. Left and Right are pretty
much clones of one another.
Stereo starts at the tale end of the last note of 'Vicious'.
From that moment through the end of 'NY Stars' the right channel is exactly 111
samples ahead of the left channel.
That's 111 samples consistently. It doesn't vary.
111 samples is more than enough to hear problems. We're hearing the right channel
first and that makes it seem louder. That's a trick sometimes used in recording studios purposely.
When 'Animal Language' begins the difference is now 86 samples. 86 samples consistently.
You can still hear it. These sample offsets also give the music a certain phasey sound.
Then 'Walk On The Wild Side', a mono recording, is 57 samples off. You can hear it
and it doesn't sound like the earlier mono tunes that are lined up properly.
When you fix it, it then sounds just right. After fixing, the channels of this mono track are now
pretty much clones of one another.
Then from 'White Light' till the end of the show those songs are 27 samples off.
I can still hear it although it's not as obvious as 111 samples.
Anyway, when you fix all of this everything sounds more centered. You don't hear it
as being louder in the right channel. And the phase issues are cleared up.
There is some wild panning during the stereo parts.
I'm guessing that the recording is the sound as it was sent to the PA.
A stereo PA that they were having fun moving things around in.
I applied a bit of eq to this. And evened out the channels to keep equal energy in
them throughout. There is a certain shimmery sound to the cymbals that we'll have to live with.
I didn't want to kill the high end.
There is a cut in 'Heroin' that always bugged me.
I had a feeling I could patch it if I had the right source to use.
I suspected that the only possibility for a patch source would be the Chalmette gig
from a couple of weeks after the Dayton show.
I finally got that recording recently when it was shared again.
Thanks slashdog!!
During the part that needed patching the band is pretty much playing the same thing at
both shows. It took some work but I got it so that the patch source would play right in time
with the Dayton 'Heroin'. That is, it would play in time for a few measures right before the
Dayton recording cuts and then for a few measures after the Dayton recording comes back in.
Of course Lou's phrasing is never the same. During the crossfades that bring the two versions
together you can hear two Lous briefly on a word or two.
I had this one version with a long crossfade in and it sounded like two Lous singing the vocal
in 'round'. For those who don't want the patched 'Heroin' I am including the original track unpatched.
Thanks to lurid uk for bringing this to us all in the first place.
Thanks to all of the other tapers and sharers of great music that we collectors
enjoy so much!
Download this bootleg here
For more:
Check out my FLAC bootleg blog here:
https://worldofflacbootleg.blogspot.com/
1974-10-27
Dayton, OH
Palace Theatre
With parts from:
The Felt Forum, New York NY 1974-10-09.
And patched audio in 'Heroin' from:
The St. Bernard Civic Auditorium, Chalmette, LA 1974-11-08.
Lou Reed: Vocals, mayhem
Danny Weiss: guitar
Michael Fonfara: keyboards
Peter 'Mouse' Johnson: Drums
Prakash John: Bass on the NY tracks maybe all the others
Peter Hodgeson: Bass maybe on the others besides NY.
01 Tuning
02 Intro Instrumental
03 Sweet Jane
04 Vicious
05 Ride Sally Ride
06 Heroin
07 Kill Your Sons
08 NY Stars
09 Animal Language
10 Waiting For Sally improv>Sally Can't Dance
11 Bass solo jam
12 Walk On The Wild Side
13 White Light White Heat
14 NY Telephone Conversation/Goodnight Ladies
15 Rock And Roll
The music is continuous, no gaps or fades.
For burning to CD split between 09 and 10.
Tracks 01 02 03 04 and 12 are mono soundboard
recordings from The Felt Forum.
The other tracks are stereo soundboard recordings
from The Palace Theatre.
Heroin has a 90 second audience recording patch
taken from the Chalmette recording.
This recording was originally shared by lurid uk.
As of today it has been snatched 1368 times.
It certainly did generate a lot of excitement, justifiably so.
At the time it was put up I had a series of conversations with lurid uk
about it.
When I first heard the samples I could tell this was going to be good.
But, something seemed a little out of whack. Not quite right.
When you listen to those samples it sounds like the right channel is louder than
the left. I expected to look at the waveform and see that the right channel was in fact louder.
The first few mono tunes look just like they should. Left and Right are pretty
much clones of one another.
Stereo starts at the tale end of the last note of 'Vicious'.
From that moment through the end of 'NY Stars' the right channel is exactly 111
samples ahead of the left channel.
That's 111 samples consistently. It doesn't vary.
111 samples is more than enough to hear problems. We're hearing the right channel
first and that makes it seem louder. That's a trick sometimes used in recording studios purposely.
When 'Animal Language' begins the difference is now 86 samples. 86 samples consistently.
You can still hear it. These sample offsets also give the music a certain phasey sound.
Then 'Walk On The Wild Side', a mono recording, is 57 samples off. You can hear it
and it doesn't sound like the earlier mono tunes that are lined up properly.
When you fix it, it then sounds just right. After fixing, the channels of this mono track are now
pretty much clones of one another.
Then from 'White Light' till the end of the show those songs are 27 samples off.
I can still hear it although it's not as obvious as 111 samples.
Anyway, when you fix all of this everything sounds more centered. You don't hear it
as being louder in the right channel. And the phase issues are cleared up.
There is some wild panning during the stereo parts.
I'm guessing that the recording is the sound as it was sent to the PA.
A stereo PA that they were having fun moving things around in.
I applied a bit of eq to this. And evened out the channels to keep equal energy in
them throughout. There is a certain shimmery sound to the cymbals that we'll have to live with.
I didn't want to kill the high end.
There is a cut in 'Heroin' that always bugged me.
I had a feeling I could patch it if I had the right source to use.
I suspected that the only possibility for a patch source would be the Chalmette gig
from a couple of weeks after the Dayton show.
I finally got that recording recently when it was shared again.
Thanks slashdog!!
During the part that needed patching the band is pretty much playing the same thing at
both shows. It took some work but I got it so that the patch source would play right in time
with the Dayton 'Heroin'. That is, it would play in time for a few measures right before the
Dayton recording cuts and then for a few measures after the Dayton recording comes back in.
Of course Lou's phrasing is never the same. During the crossfades that bring the two versions
together you can hear two Lous briefly on a word or two.
I had this one version with a long crossfade in and it sounded like two Lous singing the vocal
in 'round'. For those who don't want the patched 'Heroin' I am including the original track unpatched.
Thanks to lurid uk for bringing this to us all in the first place.
Thanks to all of the other tapers and sharers of great music that we collectors
enjoy so much!
Download this bootleg here
For more:
Check out my FLAC bootleg blog here:
https://worldofflacbootleg.blogspot.com/